Aloha! Does anyone have any suggestion on how to automate breath reduction in Adobe Audition?

I'm working on my first audio book, and today I spent 8 hours on 15 pages....a lot of it on eliminating breaths.....

Thanks in advance for your help.

Chuck.

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Chuck,
Just got the notice of your discussion..
I use noise gate VST..I doesn't come with audition but with sound forge..I had to build a VST library and then through audition ad it in the directory - it collects all VST's and puts them in the effects list in audition..I would be lost with out it - I dont know why audition doesnt have a gate in it..
Hope this helps - if have any questions you can get in touch with me through my profile -
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Joe
AKA-voiceitguy
Joe, what specifically do you use as your VST gate? I'm trying to find something that works real time but so far not luck.
I have used the compander that comes with Adobe, and the Adobe noise reduction which both help. I also have Floorfish installed, and Vanessa Hart suggest the reaper suite....but none of those work as I am recording....I guess I should just break down and by an electronic gate.....

Thanks Chuck
Chuck,
It's the noise gate out of sony sound forge direct X..I do have a stand alone programs that is supposed to help with keeping floor levels down to minimize breath spots but I don't use it while recording as it is very sensitive and in my experience tends to clip words..The sony gate works well for me..I believe you can do a search on Vst's and possibly find a plug in that will help with inhales ..I know I have run across them before..also your results may yield some stand alone programs that are designed to help with his situation..there are many..
Hope this helps,
Joe
I use Audition with Waves plugins. One of them I use is a gate. If you can take out breaths with a gate, then I don't have it adjusted properly. Can you elaborate?

Rod
Greetings Rod,
I am not familiar with the waves plugins - not sure of any of the factory settings - The one I use is out of my sony sound forge - I run off of the factory setting (slow attack) and set the threshold level @ -38 db The attack time @ 148 and Release time @ 235 this removes all shallows with out clipping words..Works very well and saves me tons of time in editing....
Hope this helps..
Joe
Those are different values to what I'm using. I'll change my gate to match your settings and try it out.

Thanks, Joe.

Aloha Chuck!

Well, here's the thing, and this is just my perspective, but I think a lot of narrators will agree, breath sounds are only bad when they are pull the listener out of the story. Heck I use breath sounds to convey information from time to time, a snort, a hiss, a long breath, they all offer communication to the listener. 

That said if you are doing technical reading and they want captain robot to read the material then I would suggest backing off the mic a bit, making sure it's up and out of the way of your airflow, their's no really effective way in audition (or any other program really) to automate breath removal, though you asked about reduction now that I think about it. Well, some folks would just use a noise gate but it always feels a little weird to me when you listen and then it goes to complete silence between speaking.

Some folks who use gates actually sample a background hum (of about -48db if I recall, anybody use that technique? speak up?) and mix it into the track to avoid that drop off feeling when using a noise gate.

Been awhile for me on that though....

Just saw Joe Pike's post, let me know how that works out?

 

Tobias, I agree with you.  Breaths are not always bad.  They can help communicate emotion in a read sometimes. Listen to singers on the radio and you'll hear inhales on many phrases - and sometimes you won't.  Often, a breath can be acceptable if it connects two sentences in a flowing thought.  But they can also be distracting, such as at the beginning of a paragraph.  So step one is to make sure you have a very quiet room so you can keep your noise gate at a minimum, allowing for breaths to be heard when they are a natural part of your phrasing, but silencing your breaths when you pause and inhale slowly and quietly.  If the noise gate is set too high, it can suddenly "open" in the middle of an inhale clipping the breath and necessitating an edit.  Setting the "attack" to slow should help this but I have found it doesn't always eliminate the problem.  So it is a combination of breath control (train yourself to inhale quietly - moving back from the mic when you do), minimal noise gate, good room acoustics, and interpretation of the script.  If you need to, a bit of "room tone" will cover a breath very nicely.  Hope this helps!

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